Best Med School in England for a student wishing to practice in the USA?

[Apollyon]

If you can get into them, the really reknown ones are of course ideal because you'll have the prestige factor weh trying to find a job afterwards. All the old famous universities are good in that respect but they are often harder than normal to get into. All the unis mentioned before are quite prestigious though you might want to include Imperial, UCL, Edinburgh, Glasgow and Manchester.

[Gizmo says -]

imperial and ucl (and Kings if you 're from the rite backgrond) are often the easier options.
yuo need to get betta informed macca, no offence, really but its betta loking at it from the outside than the in.

[Gizmo says -]

'owever i agree to an extent that the ones best 'eard of are the ones best to go for.


unfortunately this rather does depend on the peeps you end up getting interviewed by, and if they ave any sense they wil value suitability to the job over building a team of error prone prestige uni graduates who dont hav the best skills for the job.
Wuld you do that if you were employing in the 'ealthcare profession? certainly not!
A little commonsense wif decisions like this goes a long way, so guys really please use it, or lose it.

Oxbridge are the best known.
They are also the best known for being considered very academic courses - some feel its too much so, in that sacrifice other aspects of the course material that are important. horses n courses, you know?
So depending on which way your interviewer in the US is inclined to think, this could work any way for you.
As wif all fings in life, its not simple black and white at all, although i can see why it might be...... beleiving one place is the best choice gives you a double 'elping of ego boosting AND simplifies choices for the indiscerning applicant.

Dont be one of them.

The best advice surely is to go for the one that brings out your strengths?

[Gizmo says -]

one mor fing.
you'd be fooling yaself to fink that clinical experienceisnt going to be a benefit in the US, really.

i really do fink you shuld go back and fink about wat you want, you know.

'ving said that, the most academic courses on the cards are Oxbridge as peeps hav said already, and since 2000 these courses have begun including more and more clinical intergration in them according to Elles and MichaelS.

The NOtts course is pretty scientific in that they throw in a Bsc during te pre-clin years, but hey that doesnt stop it from being a very clinically integrated course.
The Bristol one -from wat i understand, similar story, but yo might want to drop the Galeniacs at Bristol a line to find out if thats tru or not.

Good luck in choosing!

[sweetie-pie]

I'm in complete agreement with Gizmo, use some common sense - there is no "best uni" for anything really, its the best one for you. whilst there is reputation, that does not mean at interview you will get preference for jobs, the USMLE scores, prizes and acievements count for more in any sensical world. Clinical experience is vital in any case if you intend to pass the USMLE clinical exam - a huge consideration, bookwork and academics is one thing, clinical exams are another for which you need experience.

[rjm]

Just rememebr that we actually practice a very different style of medicine in the UK compared with the N. America.

[Gizmo says -]

hey RJ wat are the differences? i am very interested if you ave a spare mo to teach this li'l macca.

and Texas is on ma list of places to wurk in, you know.

[rjm]

My understanding is that we focus more on clinical signs and order only the diagnostic tests we think are going to be necessary to patient management and diagnosis. Whereas in the states investigations are done more freely and people are taught more on how to interpret these rather than use information gathered from the patient.
Days start earlier over there. You spend the whole time looking over your shoulder and covering your back, you pay big malpractice insurance.
I havent worked over there, just some things that American friends of mine doing some of their training over here have told me.

[Gizmo says -]

ow very interesting indeed to read posts that are printed wif fort and knowledge, rather than blind egotism. fank you macca.


i read a book about it once but ave forgotten everyfing in it.

[sweetie-pie]

Whilst US practice is different (and I still dont like the idea of having to wake patients up at 4am for clerking, so unfair on them!), if you look at the USMLE to get there in the first place, it is an advantage to have clinical experience as you can then adapt that to the style used in the testing (ie US style more diagnostic) - another hoop to jump through, particularly in the clinical scenarios and clinical skills exams - this is what I was told by a tutor who did the exam and worked in the US, hence it is logical that the uni in England chosen wouldn't need to be of a less hand on clinical one as both academic and clinical skills are tested, and post grad experience is useful as it is rare to go straight into USMLE pass without some time in UK practice (though I doubt impossible)