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UKCAT is short for 'UK Clinical Aptitude Test' and is a new entrance exams for medical school entry.

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Old 18-12-2007, 02:51 AM   #21 (permalink)
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ahh it seems getting into medicine becomes yet more of a ridiculous pile of expensive and stressfull willy cheese. Is there a cut off for interview calling in terms of ukcat?
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Old 18-12-2007, 06:14 AM   #22 (permalink)
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At the end of the day I think it was silly to take an average of the sections anyway. They could argue that a high average shows that one is a rounded person but I say bull to that because a well rounded person isn't just intelligent. When it comes to intelligence there are different kinds: some are brilliant at English and crap at maths and vice versa.
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Old 18-12-2007, 11:59 AM   #23 (permalink)
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well i think its clear from all the ukcat cock ups, that this test doesnt really count for anything at all, and is a clear indication of well, what amounts to nothing.

i mean, any "important" test, where two thirds are taken out due to unreliability is surely an unreliable test on the whole, as its therefore not a proper all-round representation of a person...
what a bloooody waste of my time, stupid ukcat, makin me feel stupid lol!
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Old 18-12-2007, 01:52 PM   #24 (permalink)
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If anyone wants to know the points I raised in my email let me know.

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Old 18-12-2007, 02:11 PM   #25 (permalink)
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wow, nicely said arch angel
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Old 18-12-2007, 02:14 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Thanks What's the chance that they'll read it all though....

I bet they're getting loads of these.
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Old 18-12-2007, 03:46 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Arch_Angel,

I agree with a lot of what you've said, but the email does say that the med schools "HAVE NOT....TAKEN THIS COMPONENT OF THE RESULTS INTO CONSIDERATION". So it seems to me, that any interview invitations/rejections/acceptances made so far have been made with the exclusion of the AR section, and all future interview invitations/rejections/acceptances will also be made with the exclusion of the AR section. So it doesn't "change the playing field" from that point of view for later or subsequent decisions relative to people who've been interviewed/accepted already.

What it does substantially influence is if your university or course choices were based on how good your UKCAT score was - particularly if that was primarily because of the AR section. And considering we all knew our UKCAT scores before applying, and probably also knew last years cut-off points, that would have been an entirely reasonable (but now misguided) way of helping to make those choices, unfortunately....

Have sent the following to them:

Dear Pearson Vue,

I wish to register my extreme dissatisfaction with this anomaly, and with the evident unacceptable delay in informing students of the discrepancy.

It is impossible to underestimate the impact that this farcical mistake will have on many applicants' lives and future careers. Every candidate who did the UKCAT, based the choices they made as to university and course choices to a certain extent on their success at the UKCAT. Unfortunately, we are now informed that our interpretation of this score was not accurate as we should have excluded the AR section at the time. Had Pearson informed the candidates at the same time as they informed the universities (i.e. presumably by the 15th October when the universities began considering our applications, should the email be believed), then many candidates may well have changed their university choices on their UCAS forms, to reflect these changes. Hence many candidates will be unsuccessful in medicine or dental school applications this year due to this discrepancy, whereas if we'd been informed by the 15th October, we would have been able to take their revised averages into account and choose universities which had different selection criteria.

Furthermore, if extensive quality checks could be undertaken since the end of the testing sessions, why were they not undertaken before the testing commenced as would be prudent given both the high impact that these tests have on peoples lives and future careers, as well as the money that we each pay in order to take this test?

I expect a full and unequivocal apology for this unprecedented farce, and it is only right that some efforts should be made to refund candidates whose future careers now hang in the balance due to your ineptness in both the test administration, and predominantly due to the delay in informing us.
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Old 18-12-2007, 04:47 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Nice letters etc. As Adi says they did say that the unis have not and will not take the AR into consideration. They are probably just letting us know much later than they let the unis know. Of course this isn't acceptable and is worrying for those who have based their application on their original average. However do you really think looking at last years 'cut off' is firm evidence for what this years cut of will be? Also I've seen a few people say their average score has gone right down and yet they are still being invited for interview. Does anyone have firm evidence that the unis use the average score as a cut-off and not, as I think they should, look at the individual sections? I've seen a few people as well say that they studied very hard for the AR and that's why they scored 900. That in itself makes the test grossly inaccurate. If it is meant to test 'innate' intelligence, you shouldn't be able to study for it and I don't think they should have given us the sample test.
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Old 18-12-2007, 05:05 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Nice letter

The way I see it, we can't just take for granted that they've decided to tell the universities to ignore the AR section at the beginning of the cycle. It's unthinkable that they'd do this anyway, so i've no probs believing that they'd tell them half way through. For a company that would make such a stupid and obvious mistake as this anything is possible.

Although I hope that you are right, it wouldn't surprise me if you weren't. That and it's still woefully unacceptable that they'd do this even before the unis got the results and not tell us until now.
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Old 18-12-2007, 10:06 PM   #30 (permalink)
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I suppose we should be grateful they've not made another cock up and lost all our personal details the way they did for the driving test folks!
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