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    Questions from a non EEA Person - Regards to F1/2 and Career Questions

    Hi Everyone!

    I will be studying Medicine at University of Birmingham this year (2008). As I am a New Zealander I will be studying as an international/ overseas Student (non EEA) I have some questions and just want to make sure of before I come to study. The questions will mainly revolve around the foundation programmes (f1/f2) and the career opportunities available for people like me. I hope the questions make sense and apologise if it doesn't...

    Questions:

    1) I have read and understand that even for International/overseas students who graduate from UK universities, in this case Medical School of University of Birmingham, are eligible to enter the foundation programme (f1/f2), and my medical school will be responsible for extension of my student visa to cover the duration of study/ practise, is this correct?

    2) So basically all medical students should be accepted into the foundation programme after gradtuaion as long as the academic ability reaches a certain/acceptable threshold. Does this include internation students of graduated from UK medical schools?

    3) Continue from question 2, so basically the foundation programme has a gurantee scheme for UK graduates and it's just a matter of the choice/ location for applicants?

    4) When does a medical graduate become qualified and registered to practise? Is it after the completetion of F1? Or is it after the completion of F2?

    5) Are you able to do F1 and/or F2 years of the foundation programme overseas/ abroad? If so, what are the countries that can be accredited?

    6) For International/overseas students who graduate from UK universities, in this case Medical School of University of Birmingham. Will I be able to stay in UK and practise as a doctor after I have graduated and completed the foundation programmes? What is the prospect of career for overseas students (non-EEA) who graduated from UK medical school? How hard will it be for somone like me to work in UK, either as GP or as specialist?

    7) If an application for a position is successful, will the employer need to apply work permits for non-EEA employee?

    8) What is the pay like? For doctors in F1, F2 years, House officers, Registrars and Consultants?

    Sorry for the bombardment of questions but I believe it will truly help me if my confusions are cleared away. Also does anyone know who to contact if I want further information? Also I think I will get enough information from here

    also, do tell me if i posted this thread at the wrong place.

    Cheers
    Last edited by Drawde; 15-10-2008 at 12:33 AM.



  2. #2
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    Hi welcome to Uni of Birmingham by the way .

    now regarding your questions:

    1) at this moment in time yes you're eligible to enter foundation programme, however, I am not sure how long is this going to be as 5 years of studying medicine is a long way to go still and by the time you graduate, things might have changed. Before I entered medical school, we are all guaranteed jobs and training but not anymore now. So my suggestion is to keep updating yourself nearer the time. To get the extension of visa, this is not done by University but the deanery where you will be applying for the FY1/FY2 jobs and the visa at the moment is called permit free visa (for post-grad doctors- max of 36 months if I am right)

    2) I am not sure what do you mean by 'Does this include internation students of graduated from UK medical schools'. Do you mean does this include international students? If so, then my answer is I would have thought so that all (or at least most) students including international students will be accepted into foundation programme as long as conditions have been met. However, like I say anything can change between now and when you will graduate in 5 years time.

    3) For now it is kind of guaranteed (correct me if I am wrong anyone?) scheme, again anything can change.

    4) After FY1, you will be registered to the GMC. Between graduation and FY1, you will hold provisional registration to the GMC.

    5) I think you can do FY1/FY2 abroad. I think there are limited places and all and I have sooo little idea about this. so better ask someone else.

    6) Still quite a long way to go to see that. However, at the moment to be able to work in the UK after foundation programme, you will be required a work permit. I am not sure if anything has changed from what I last heard of, but from what I heard of, they will consider home and EU/EEA students before non-EEA.

    7) You need to get work permit after foundation programme to be able to work and the hospitals will assist you in getting one.

    8) Pay for FY1; between 21-22k as a basic salary and not including any banding.

    Hope this helps. Please keep in mind, 5 years from now, everything may have changed.
    Starting as an academic FY1 in August

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    Does anyone in here know if i study medicine in an asian country do i have to do the plab test and how hard is it but im a uk kid lol

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    Yes, you would have to do PLAB. It is a similar level to med school finals. Med Schools in Asian countries have more of an emphasis on pre-clinical studies, so you may not be that well prepared.

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    Orite Thanks Anyway x

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