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    Why thank you!

    I'm in the fortunate position to live a mere 10 min walk from the university so it means that I can pop in for an hour here and there when hubby is 'working from home'.

    Haven't done any work for 3 whole weeks and am starting to feel a bit brain dead... just hope it kick starts itself before any exams!

    Went in for 2 sessions at the tail end of last week. It was good to get out of the house, but it did feel a little bit like the beginning of the first year again - when everyone sounds like they are talking in a foreign language - i.e. Medicine (and the topics I'd missed)

    We'll see how it goes...


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    thanks for all your replys i feel a bit calmer. I have been to see the university welfare and they have said they will back me up. i am meeting with someone else tommorrow who is going to discuss this with me further, fingers crossed.

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    Good, hope it works out and that the med school see sense.
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    Good luck! I bet if you were a guy who's wife was having a baby, the med school would leave you alone. I really think you can do it just fine. They are right in that you don't know what it will be like, but neither do they. When I was pregnant everyone said I'd change my mind about med school. That didn't happen! Don't listen to others. My husband is fantastic with our daughter and for a short time was a stay at home dad. The old traditional roles didn't suit us and that's ok!

    Sorry to hear the med school isn't helping. I'm really curious as to which one it is! Congrats on the baby! I found having a baby helped in some aspects with med school (focus for one!).

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    In another post I mentioned that the Deanery can be a bit control freaky at F1 / F2.
    This actually is a continuation of the 'totally undemocratic' way that Universities are managed.
    Ive got a friend whos currently in yr 5 and because he had a dispute with one of the heads of school they have made his life hell at every opportunity. Basically if they really want someone to retake a year they will make sure they fail an exam and do it that way.
    Im not trying to scare-monger, and hopefully they will be reasonable, but just telling you that Universities make their own rules and dont play fair.

    I think all courses accross the UK should sit the same exams (like independently set and marked) every year so there was a transparent and even handed system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by atenololbeta View Post
    In another post I mentioned that the Deanery can be a bit control freaky at F1 / F2.
    This actually is a continuation of the 'totally undemocratic' way that Universities are managed.
    Ive got a friend whos currently in yr 5 and because he had a dispute with one of the heads of school they have made his life hell at every opportunity. Basically if they really want someone to retake a year they will make sure they fail an exam and do it that way.
    Im not trying to scare-monger, and hopefully they will be reasonable, but just telling you that Universities make their own rules and dont play fair.

    I think all courses accross the UK should sit the same exams (like independently set and marked) every year so there was a transparent and even handed system.
    Without a doubt agree with this!
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    I second that!


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    Quote Originally Posted by atenololbeta View Post
    In another post I mentioned that the Deanery can be a bit control freaky at F1 / F2.
    This actually is a continuation of the 'totally undemocratic' way that Universiti
    Ive got a friend whos currently in yr 5 and because he had a dispute with one of the heads of school they have made his life hell at every opportunity. Basically if they really want someone to retake a year they will make sure they fail an exam and do it that way.
    Im not trying to scare-monger, and hopefully they will be reasonable, but just telling you that Universities make their own rules and dont play fair.
    Mmmm.....

    You're making a very serious accusation there, not one to be made lightly or without firm evidence. You're saying that because your "friend" (and your involvement in this thread Giving up F2, Best thing u can do does make me wonder about who this "friend of yours" in fact is), had a dispute, the medical school have deliberately broken all rules of professional conduct and made his life difficult. I think it would be useful to declare (1) what the "dispute" was about and the facts about how it was handled, (2) whether this "friend of yours" posts defamatory broadsweeping posts in this website (and yes, you know what I mean by that), and (3) what proof, and I mean proof, not tittle tattle word of mouth from the biased supposedly hard done by medical student, you have that medical schools will make sure a student fails an exam.

    I say this because my seven years at university and ten years in a profession have taught me that (1) there is always a lot more than appears on the surface of these sorts of things, (2) that often the plaintiff who goes round gobbing off at organisations is rarely telling the whole story, precisely because it's easier to blame a huge organisation than admit a few unsavoury things to oneself, (3) that students fail exams for one reason and one reason only: they have not done the work (even those with extenuating genuine social/ domestic/ medical/ personal/ family/ grievance/ illness reasons have invariably done the work so pass anyway, albeit with the score they would have got had they not had a tough time over whatever it is), and that (4) students who "surprisingly fail" are invariably kidding themselves about how much work they did and will blame anyone to avoid the unpalatable and embarrassing truth that they did not do the work that was well within their grasp.

    If you truly believe what you say, have the courage of your conviction and get it looked into. The organisations who examine and assess medical schools would be very interested in what you have to say, but I'd hazard an educated guess that you won't take it that far.

    I fail to see why professional 30-somethings and 40-somethings and 50-somethings at universities or medical schools would waste their energy or emotional time on "making sure someone fails an exam". Medical students come and go by the score; why would a collection of adults ( and I say collection of adults because it would take a whole load of people conspiring for this to escape the net) waste their time on a 20-something medical student who is having a good old whinge?!? Why would a group of adults put their jobs on the line?!?

    There is always a lot more to these sorts of things that people declare, and it's all too easy to shoot from the hip and gob off without being prepared to be honest with oneself or back it up.

    I suspect there is a lot more to these wild accusations of yours that we will never hear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by atenololbeta View Post

    I think all courses accross the UK should sit the same exams (like independently set and marked) every year so there was a transparent and even handed system.
    For finals and finals only, yes, I think that is a good idea.
    Nick
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