Rant about money (Split from typical week)

**storm** · 15-06-2006, 12:41 AM

Money? Who cares about money. We are talking about an education- that is one of the most valuable things there is. Some children in the world do not even get access to a primary education, nevermind training to become a doctor. And should point out that a medical degree eats away at much more taxpayer's money than most.
Money should be no object.

**hailz101** · 15-06-2006, 10:54 AM

surely you can appreciate a joke? - Maybe not!!

**corskrew** · 15-06-2006, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by storm

Money? Who cares about money. We are talking about an education- that is one of the most valuable things there is. Some children in the world do not even get access to a primary education, nevermind training to become a doctor. And should point out that a medical degree eats away at much more taxpayer's money than most.
Money should be no object.

/rant

...get on the golf course, release that frustration...

True, it would be nice if we could all save the world and everybody had equal opportunities and nobody had to live in the countryside and pray for forgiveness and grow their own sheep and eat soup all day, but it's not going to happen this century.
And the amount of govt funding is irrelevant in the previous comment - any degree (for my lot and before anyway) costs circa £1175 pa and accomodation is of a comparable cost across the board. Even the most hard up student with no parental support gets a loan & grant which will almost cover fees, rent, and food. Not to mention course materials, socialising, travel, leisure activities...

If you can find some omniscient being or charitable body willing to pay for my education because they feel money is no object, give me their phone number. Until then, I'll be contactable during my summer break travelling yorkshire doing everything possible to scrape together the £1500 needed to pay off my overdraft and put me on a plane somewhere hot with the girlfriend.

**Gizmo says -** · 15-06-2006, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by geeolamagnola

paying all these bloody tuition fees i would expect to get some decent tuition i.e. like in newcastle; not to be left alone like you are on the crap course at manc

whilst i respect your opinion, you dont ave a clu wat you're saying.

**scrubs** · 15-06-2006, 01:01 PM

I think geeola means that he feels he's getting better "value for money" on a less PBL-orientated course as there is a bigger focus on lectures etc than on self-directed learning. This doesn't make the course at Manchester crap however!

I'm still to be convinced by PBL, and its one of the reasons I finally decided not to go to HYMS. It's a bit more reassuring (I find) to know I'll be learning from lectures given by lectureres who I trust more than myself to teach me the basics in the first few years.

**Gizmo says -** · 15-06-2006, 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by scrubs

I think geeola means that he feels he's getting better "value for money" on a less PBL-orientated course as there is a bigger focus on lectures etc than on self-directed learning. This doesn't make the course at Manchester crap however!

I'm still to be convinced by PBL, and its one of the reasons I finally decided not to go to HYMS. It's a bit more reassuring (I find) to know I'll be learning from lectures given by lectureres who I trust more than myself to teach me the basics in the first few years.

with pbl aving been around for years and wurking, wat you mean surely is that you're stil to decide whether you want to adapt your own approach to learning to pbl? i ope i understand you rite, Scrubby.

**MCStott** · 15-06-2006, 01:22 PM

In all fairness, with regards to your comment that “medical degree eats away at much more taxpayer's money than most”, is a student who trains to be a medic not more useful to “the taxpayer” and society as a whole, since these are the doctors of tomorrow, and who will have to do some work on behalf of the NHS, covering your retort of private work. Is it therefore not right that medical degrees are invested in, compared to some “popular” subjects such as psychology or criminology, or some forms of law degrees, that, in all due respect, lead to little but a degree. My friend’s cousin has a degree in law from the University of Manchester, a much respected red-brick University, and is a supermarket assistant in Marks and Spencer. End of rant.

**storm** · 15-06-2006, 01:54 PM

I don't want to be useful to the taxpayer. I should rather like to be free and living in a wooden cabin in the woods, grow my own vegetables and write poetry than paying taxes that will go to fund the extortinate wages of the NHS staff. (Yes, I do feel doctors, nurses, dentists and the like are vastly overpaid and shall probably be hated by everybody now).

^You can talk, with your little plans to jet off to Australia...

**storm** · 15-06-2006, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by corskrew

/rant

...get on the golf course, release that frustration...

True, it would be nice if we could all save the world and everybody had equal opportunities and nobody had to live in the countryside and pray for forgiveness and grow their own sheep and eat soup all day, but it's not going to happen this century.

Having reread, that is exactly the kind of natural, harmonious, beautiful life we should be wishing for (!) (minus the sheep part)

**scrubs** · 15-06-2006, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by Gizmo says -

with pbl aving been around for years and wurking, wat you mean surely is that you're stil to decide whether you want to adapt your own approach to learning to pbl? i ope i understand you rite, Scrubby.

Yeah thats where I'm coming from, I wasn't/am still not convinced PBL would be best for me.