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Old 16-02-2008, 11:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Recommend me a physiology textbook?

Can anybody recommend me a good physiology book?

Most of the ones I've tried are either not detailed enough or swimming in so much detail its hard to see the big picture.. need to particuarly review my respiratory & renal knowledge! Thanks (as Gizmo would say 'macca')!
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Old 17-02-2008, 02:56 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I haven't done any renal physiology yet, but I really like Vander's for respiratory. It's a clearly written overview with plenty of integrated detail (so it doesn't feel like it's swimming in it!) and some nice diagrams too

I've also been using Berne and Levy, but I'm not too keen on the respiratory chapter in that. But it is better than Vander's for background information relating to the respiratory system with a long section on anatomy and function (handy if you want to just take one book out of the library at a time!). Berne and Levy was definitely the best book I found for cardiovascular physiology though - and you can get that chapter as a separate book, so you don't have to cart the whole thing around.
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Old 26-02-2008, 03:07 AM   #3 (permalink)
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thank you for your comments. you liked Berne & levy? at our med school it has earned the name 'burn & leave it' but to each their own I guess, I never found it to have the info I needed for particular questions etc..
I've decided on boron for now...
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Old 26-02-2008, 05:01 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I like Berne and Levy for Cardiovascular, but that's the editors' own specialism, so you'd expect it to be decent!
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Old 13-03-2008, 01:00 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Boron is good for hardcore detail, but Silverthorn's Human Physiology is a much lighter read and probably covers everything you need. I used both to complement each other, but as I say Silverthorn should do the job on its own. I do like Berne and Levy too but it's a bit plain too look at.

As always...try before you buy...
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Old 26-04-2008, 06:38 PM   #7 (permalink)
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It depends very much on your learning style... first of all, you need to find a book that you'll be able to spend a great deal of time with

You also need to find a book that is comprehensive, and really up-to-date, not just in terms of facts but also in terms of teaching style. That means look closely at the great tomes, Guyton & Hall, Boron, and Ganong.

Finally, you have to be ready and willing to supplement whatever book you pick as your main textbook with other sources! That is, check out physiology monographs, articles, and the lovely internet.

Of the three books I listed, I like Boron the most. I feel it has much better illustrations than does Guyton, and makes better use of analogies. The equations that seem to infest it may be daunting at first, but they actually help even a mathophobe like me to understand important relationships. The advantages of the concept--single textbook with two main editors, but written by many authors who are experts and experienced teachers in their fields--should become clear after just a few minutes of reading--they really know what they're talking about and (usually) how best to say it

A number of criticisms are commonly directed against this book, and chief among them seems to be those relating to the great level of detail. This can be very problematic for the reader who hasn't yet developed the ability (and willingness ) to differentiate between "important" and "unimportant" information, ignoring the latter.

I personally find it easy to do this with Boron, due to the clear structure of every chapter, along with the (generally) very well-designed illustrations. I found sorting through Guyton much more difficult, due to his writing style (when I learned that he dictated much--if not most--of the book, it made sense...). However, I'm told Guyton is easier to read as a novel about physiology, so to speak!

Another criticism I've seen a few times is the lack of a comprehensive neuro section. I feel this is actually one of the best things about the book, as neuro is better dealt with in eg. Purves Neuroscience--ie. a proper neuro book. The neuro section in Boron is a pleasant way to deepen one's understanding of the material that may be found in a dedicated neuro textbook.

The final criticism I've seen very often is about the book's focus on cellular aspects. I can't for the life of me understand why this is seen as a disadvantage. Even though I struggled with cell-biology, and found the semester we spent with The Cell to be very very tedious on many occasions, I think it's undeniable that an understanding of the cellular basis of physiology is crucial for developing an understanding of physiology on the whole. Without that basis, you will have to spend a lot more time and effort memorising facts and details without understanding the material properly.

Guyton is generally acknowledged as being very good for learning CV-physiology. I used to consider this a major selling point, until I discovered www.cvphysiology.com, a site based on the book Cardiovascular Physiology concepts. Both the site and the book are the best resources I've found--so far--for learning CV-phsiology, esp. when combined with a couple of good introductory lectures on hemodynamics.

Vander's book on renal physiology is a fantastic resource, but it's a great deal of reading... for my purposes, I've found Boron, lectures and articles to be much more suitable. If anyone's interested, I can share the articles--they're like precious little physiology tutorials that are esp. good at adressing misconceptions that at least I had no idea I had

Ganong is a very special book... some sections are very comprehensive, and some appear to be severely lacking (eg. the section on renal physiology), at least for learning physiology from scratch. Depending on your state of mind and the nature of your course, it can be an easy read or a real pain. The structure of the book doesn't mesh with the structure of my course, and it's pretty different from both Guyton and Boron in that respect.

Nevertheless, it can often be an almost refreshing read. It's very concise, and the pictures, though very simple, are generally pretty illustrative.

When it comes to learning biochemistry properly (in the context of human physiology), I'd recommend either Medical Biochemistry by Dominiczak, or Basic Medical Biochemistry: A Clinical Approach, by... er, I forget. I found the latter to be too much for my purposes, but the problem-based approch it takes is fantastic!

That was a lot more writing than I'd planned on... I hope it helps you with your decision :-) good luck!

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Old 11-05-2008, 02:20 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I have Vanders Human physiology which is nice and easy to read, clear to understand. But I'm not a med student yet so can't comment on the depth of detail it has compared to whats required.
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I had no background in physiology at all (did a biochemistry undergrad), and now wanted to learn the basics before I start my GEP this year. I tried a few books, and found Silverstein by far the most accessible - beautiful flowchart summary diagrams, and very clear. Although it might be lacking in detail a little bit (e.g. I was reading the respiratory chapter just the other day, and as a biochemist found the Haemoglobin section rather lacking in what I would have regarded as essential facts). But for an intro to physiology, it was perfect. I really enjoyed reading it - it reads so easily, I managed 1-2 chapters a day (in the evening) including note-taking.

Guyton & Hall is similarly nice.

I really didn't like Sherwood very much - now that I've read the stuff in the two abovementioned books, it's fine, but as an intro it was confusing!

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Early on in our module on reproductive physiology, it became clear that Guyton isn't very good in this area, even to the point of making numerous mistakes.

Some of my friends in the UK have used Silverstein, and it seems to have been good for their purposes!
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