Best courses for 1st class hons. graduate?

[yazoo]

I think everyone who can pass MBChB could get a 1st in an undergrad degree if they are vaguely interested and put in the work. There is some degree of subject specific apptitude involved, of course. I would expect a theorectical physicist to have a different range of skills to a sociology grad. I would expect a medic to be briiliant at neither. Very clever people tend to not study medicine or to drop out in years 1-2. IME.

So who gets a 1st? Clever people who want to (not all want to). Competitive people. People who set themselves high standards. People who fear not being perfect. People who are quite bright but genuinely inspired. Each of these groups will bring varying good and bad things to the table as a Dr.

I'll not labour the point by reveiving a similar list for people with 2.1s. But it does become obvious why medical applications focus on a rounded picture. There is room for driven high fliers, but not for everyone to be so.

Basically, patients want competent Drs who understand them and are kind. Maybe jeremy kyle helps achieve this? (Maybe i should watch it....)

[clemette]

With humanities degrees or any degree that is more to do with how you think rather than what you have memorised then I would agree that a higher degree class is more likely to equal greater intelligence.

We lowly arts graduates don't often get "bigged up" on NMM. It was only a few week's ago when we were a drain in the nation's taxes
seriously though, my academic background must have held a substantial weight in my application because it was able to counter a lack of any scientific qualifications!

[Bolt_700]

an art degree for me personally does not equate to the same respect as a scientific or mathematical one. the arts involve your memory, science involves the use of your memory along with logic.

[tiger_lilly]

Now, back to the original question - with which other universities will my 1st carry some weight?

Thanks,

Jack

Sorry mate, apart from Birmingham GEP, everyone else uses the ukcat/ gamsat as the 1st screening point. You really need to wait til you know your ukcat score. Although places like imperial and oxford look favorably at 1sts, if you dont ace your ukcat (660+) then your first doesn't mean anything!

Edinburgh loves 1st if you don't mind the 5yrs.

[clemette]

an art degree for me personally does not equate to the same respect as a scientific or mathematical one. the arts involve your memory, science involves the use of your memory along with logic.

Luckily employers, academics, and people of sense don't agree.
A first is a first in whatever discipline you achieve it. You need to go beyond memory and into analysis, synthesis and creative thought whether it is in history or in astrophysics. Some people have the ability to do this but get 2:1s due to external circumstances which is why universities are flexible. But there has to be some reason why I, with a first in history, got a place ahead of some with a 2:1 in biochemistry. There is, of course, a debate about whether this is just, but it is a fact.

[tiger_lilly]

Luckily employers, academics, and people of sense don't agree.
A first is a first in whatever discipline you achieve it.

I'll have to disagree with you on that one. Some subjects are more highly rated than others whether it be arts or science, and history is regarded highly for all the reasons you've stated. However, employers do not equate a 1st in history or philosophy as the same as a 1st in leisure and tourism for example.

[Bolt_700]

and even moreso, a first in a subject which would benefit the medicine course would be more highly regarded than history.

[AimsRJ]

and even moreso, a first in a subject which would benefit the medicine course would be more highly regarded than history.

Not necessarily. Some unis would agree with you (eg Bristol GEP) however many, if not most, take the view that you are taught medicine on the course therefore you only need to prove your potential, and not show any form of 'head start' on the material. Therefore, as Clemette says, it is often the case than a 1st in History is preferable to a 2:1 in biochem.

[469er]

Very clever people tend to not study medicine or to drop out in years 1-2. IME.

Really? How interesting. Why is that, do you think? (Of course, we are all now bristling with indignation that we have to choose between being very clever or getting through med school... )
Agree with everything else you said (except watching more Jeremy Kyle...).

[big2cats]

[QUOTE=Bambi;699739]When it comes to consultant jobs people barely care if you have a BSc let alone what class it was.


they may not ask for consultant jobs, but in order to be a consultant you have to complete specialist training and you will recieve an extra point for your application form if you have a first rather than a 2.1.