Trainee doctor from LEEDS jumped to his death after failing exams--omg when ws ths??

[idiopath]

i wouldn't worry too much - most people don't fail and leeds won't make any rash decisions about you! if you do fail, you will be given ample chance to resit - most individuals would have to fail the same exam 4 times to run out of luck.

[ThePenguinMafia]

Amir, who achieved A* plus grades in his A levels

whut?

anywho, tragic loss of life. Let's hope it doesn't happen to anybody else.

[yeliab_cram]

I must say, i have not read this thread for a while, but some of the last posts are a little discouraging, and i think a little unfair. Anyway, a few points:

1) as i understand, at the current time, you get nothing for completing years 1-3/4 of medicine, but there is talk of giving BMedSci (not BSc) to students who fail after year 3.

2) Leeds has a pretty decent support system for Phase II and III nowadays. I agree there have been instances of harsher treatment of Phase I students (ie years 1-3) but after third year the faculty are much more understanding of problems, and i know many people who have been treated fairly by staff and offered good support. So i wouldn't scream "Leeds has shit support" from the mountains quite so loudly.

3) What happened was an absolute tragedy. However, Medical school does not apply that kind of pressure...

[Muffin2]

i think it would be a good thing to bring in a BMedSci.
at least then if the awful thing did happen and a student failed after year 3 they would at least have something. i think it would go a long way in preventing future incidencs like this one if students had the reassurance thay would get something for all their hard work.

i know quite a few people who are wanting to intercalate for fear of failing. not the best reason to intercalate.

[Muffin2]

and yeah i was offered good support. but the fact is not everyone gets it.

[yeliab_cram]

I hear what you are saying. But i think the support given in Phases II & III, but particularly in phase III is much better. Further, i dont think there is any good evidence that there was poor support in this particular case. It was a tragedy, but we dont know if anything could have been done to prevent it.

[mahima]

This loss is truly tragic.

I remember talking to a Associate Specialist at my work experience and he told me that 4 of his colleagues had committed suicide and that he himself had 3 court cases pending from patients who had sued him.

Though I myself am not a medic i do know how difficult it is to become a doctor and also to work as a doctor.

[Muffin2]

its ridiculous this culture of everyone suing everyone else. we've got to the point now where doctors/nurses/first aiders are being sued by people who have had their ribs broken during CPR. it seems people now value money and material possesions over their lives.

[Eponine_hugo]

You know I am going to be controversial to the general tone of the thread again and say Leeds DOES give good support. Due to medical reasons that I dont want to discuss in detail, I was banned from dissection for a while and consequently failed the first spot test this year because I had no teaching and sat the exam with photos instead of in the dissection room. By the time of the second exam I did really well in it because I was allowed back into dissection. Unfortunately the 2 marks combined just missed (by about 1%) the pass mark but because I was at a disadvantage in the first exam they are sympathetic and I can sit the exam in august as a first attempt (esp cos all my other exams have been really good). So yeah, Leeds works for me. Dissection problems solved and I get a fair shot at the exam so I can get the grade I am capable of!

[PureMedic]

Originally Posted by moonshine

"Just because your parents are Asian doctors, it doesn't mean you have to be."

Oh! Unecessary mention of the word Asian.

I'm not 100% certain what you are saying, Moonshine, but I want to give 'my two cents" - worth (??sp) and say that there is no room for the kind of prejudice that was mentioned. Although I was once spoken harshly-to by an Asian Registrar (at the very start of Obs. & Gynae., maybe 3-4 days into our residence at rooms (nearby the hospital), I have to say that I did not react 'adversely' to the registrar (this was either 1984 or 1985!) because she was Asian, but because nobody had ever questioned my knowledge or lack thereof on any clinical matter. The thought of discrimination on the basis of race, creed or skin colour is very distasteful to me. If true, about the consultant surgeon making a racist remark, he should be suspended for some years for such a thing. [I am not 100% certain if it was true or whether it was his word against the word of the student]. If suspended, he would need to re-train pro-bono, which should dent his ego sufficiently to make 'doctors of his sort' feel unwanted!