why do a lot of people get rejected from keele?

[shawn_ellisuk]

why would ethnic minorities be given more of a chance? Medicine is inundated with ethnic minorities. Last consesus taken of the various ethnicities within the medical profession showed that ethnic minorities were more than substantially represented within medicine within the UK (almost 1 in 2 doctors has a south asian background), almost 6% of doctors are black (compared to 2% of the general population)....so if they are not under-represented then there is no need for "positive discrimination". Anyway within the constraints of the law, no institution within the UK can employ positive discrimination. They have to take people based on their merit...irrespective of race, gender, religion....e.t.c.

[Tiny]

I believe that there is a combination of grades and interview in the end and I also believe that ethnic minorities are given more chances.

You believe wrong then. This would be deemed racial discrimination against non ethnics and/ or favouritism towards them - something which is against all criterias of medical entrance.

[amarillo_returns]

If you feel Keele is the right place for you and you know deep down you can do it, then have a good shot at it I hope you get in, race and whatever else does not come into it, it will be down to the interview and you making the criteria. So worry more about meeting those than what you are concentrate on who you are!

[crog80]

You believe wrong then. This would be deemed racial discrimination against non ethnics and/ or favouritism towards them - something which is against all criterias of medical entrance.

As a white British male, I am a minority in the medical school. Medical students are not an fair representation of the general public.

However, there is no discrimination in the entrance criterias. The best candidates get the offers, end of.

[Toffee_Kid]

A possible reason for the fact that medical schools are not representative of the population is culture. A lot of Arabs I know have received pressure to become doctors from their parents, as well as a lot of Africans, and almost every Asian I have met in the past 12 months has received such a suggestion (or more) from their parents. However I have never met a white british person whose parents were trying to influence them in the same way.

Also, some of those from different countries will be immigrants because their parents were looking for work, or were escaping from violence, or they may have just wanted a better quality of life. They will be more appreciative of the education system we have than someone who has been here all their lives and sees the eduational system we have as simply a 'standard expectation of how education should be'. They may simply work harder and make the most of their opportunities as they can see how lucky they are. This, in my opinion, would make them a better student than someone from an upper middle class family who had opportunities served to them on a silver plate all their lives, hwhich may suggest why medical schools tend to be very multicultural.

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[zub2star]

I don't agree with some of the comments here. I can reassure you that the majority of people in most of the years are not of a different ethnic background when compared to the standard white British. Keele does have an 'okay' proportion of different ethnics but they do not form the majority and frankly put compared to places like Leicester its probs nothing. I know when I came to keele and saw our years proportions-I didnt feel wow theres so many asians here and tbh I wasnt too bothered. In my year alone i think there are 3 or 4 ppl who are the same ethnic background as me, compared to my high school and college where there was like 30-40%. At the end of the day whoever is successful at interview will get an offer-its as simple as that.

[amarillo_returns]

If you are using your ethnicity as a reason why you or somebody else has been rejected from Keele then the problem most likely lies somewhere else with you. Concentrate on your positives and not your negatives.

[Toffee_Kid]

:S I am guessing you aren't referring to me, amarillo_returns, as I am merely making a point about why I think medical schools are, on the whole, very multicultural.
My ethnicity has nothing to do with it. I am half Arab and half Black, and I've lived in England all my life. All I was saying was that some may appreciate our education system more than others. I say this because I have spoken to many of my parents friends who have told me about how much they appreciated the education system when they arrived in this country, and how it spurred them on to do well, and I think it's fair to assume that some people my age who have come here from other countries will appreciate the increased educational opportunities the move has given them. In my opinion, the better school you go to, the more support you have with your application, education, etc. and so it is a little easier.
Of course the best candidates get the places, I am not for a moment assuming that the admissions process is biased in any way. I was just saying that I think the people who work harder and put in more effort to acheive their goals are the people who make better candidates.
In all honesty, your point has nothing to do with the points I was making, and you should have read what I said in more detail before assuming i am a bitter and insecure person, or whatever it is you were trying to say.

zub2star: i was talking about medical schools in general, from statistics I have seen. I don't know about Keele in particular, so i'm pretty sure you're right about it. Generally though, from what I have read, there are proportionally more of some races in medical schools than there are in the UK.

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[amarillo_returns]

I am referring to nobody in particular and if you can make inference to yourself from my post then maybe you disagree with it.

Anyhow who cares, i got in, i'm doing well, i've given my advice and its upto you to take it. You dont have to.

[persianmedic]

A possible reason for the fact that medical schools are not representative of the population is culture. A lot of Arabs I know have received pressure to become doctors from their parents, as well as a lot of Africans, and almost every Asian I have met in the past 12 months has received such a suggestion (or more) from their parents. However I have never met a white british person whose parents were trying to influence them in the same way.

Also, some of those from different countries will be immigrants because their parents were looking for work, or were escaping from violence, or they may have just wanted a better quality of life. They will be more appreciative of the education system we have than someone who has been here all their lives and sees the eduational system we have as simply a 'standard expectation of how education should be'. They may simply work harder and make the most of their opportunities as they can see how lucky they are. This, in my opinion, would make them a better student than someone from an upper middle class family who had opportunities served to them on a silver plate all their lives, hwhich may suggest why medical schools tend to be very multicultural.

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