US Citizen - grad entry requirements

[USpremed01]

Where can I get a list of grad entry requirements? I have my BA already. I just started to look at med school in the US and the UK. Since US med school admissions is somewhat unpredictable, I was thinking about applying to the UK ones as well.

I know edinburg looks at your MCAT scores. Any others?

[Scottish Chap]

Where can I get a list of grad entry requirements? I have my BA already. I just started to look at med school in the US and the UK. Since US med school admissions is somewhat unpredictable, I was thinking about applying to the UK ones as well.

I know edinburg looks at your MCAT scores. Any others?

EdinburgH looks at the MCAT (>9, 9, 10), but they are in the minority. Most British schools don't know much about it. Generally, British medical schools will accept a North American applicant who is competitive for entry in their own country (GPA >3.5), but there are very few places and you're probably looking at the five-year course rather than the accelerated four-year course for graduates which was created to alleviate the acute physician schortage in the U.K. The B.A. will hurt you coming from the U.S.; most British medical schools want to see a B.S.

[USpremed01]

EdinburgH looks at the MCAT (>9, 9, 10), but they are in the minority. Most British schools don't know much about it. Generally, British medical schools will accept a North American applicant who is competitive for entry in their own country (GPA >3.5), but there are very few places and you're probably looking at the five-year course rather than the accelerated four-year course for graduates which was created to alleviate the acute physician schortage in the U.K. The B.A. will hurt you coming from the U.S.; most British medical schools want to see a B.S.

It's in biology. But what are the requirements? Any specific requirements other than GPA?

[nas007bond]

hi,

1. Have your finance guaranteed! Your chances of getting loans in UK are less than 1%. You are looking at roughly £100,000 for a 5 year course. And fees have to be paid before term commences.
2. Following on from 1, if you have the slightest idea in your head that eventually you will be allowed/be able to practice medicine in UK and recoup the fees you paid for your education then, this wont happen.

Very soon, medical students (in uk) wil be graduating from schools that did not exist 5 years ago. This will create more problems for the foriegn/international students. Simply put, all UK-nationals will get priority over any other candidate for F1 jobs (to complete registration with GMC), and left overs may be given to international students - but only for 1 year. Then you will need a work permit. International students are not required to register with the GMC.

3. Last, you have a degree. Nearly all international students studying/applying for 5 year MBChB courses have A-levels with GCSEs or equivalents - they do not hold degrees.
Read this:

"Up to 15,000 medics who came to the UK to train as junior doctors have been left stranded and some destitute without the chance of getting a job after a snap change in the immigration laws earlier this month."

http://www.mymigration.net/uk/news/A...50000000_A.htm

[Scottish Chap]

I know a girl with a U.S. B.A. who was recently been told by every British medical school that she cannot apply with that degree. They are asking her for English A-levels or a U.S. science degree. At best, one or two medical schools like Edinburgh offer a six-year medical degree where the first year is spent doing chemistry, biology, and physics but, again, that course is intended for a British high school graduate. I think that's your best shot. Keep in mind that Edinburgh also favours international students who come from countries where medical traiing is substandard and the U.S. is not one of those countries. Honestly, I think your chances are not good in the U.K. with a foreign B.A. I would complete your premed requirements and apply to U.S. M.D. and D.O. schools. Good luck.

[USpremed01]

Thanks Scottish Chap,for all the advice. I just want to know what the requirements are for GRADUATE ENTRY PROGRAM at various schools (aside from edinburg and aside from finances and other stuff). I know you might think I'm wasting my time (for some I am wasting my money). I just want to research into the UK Med option - probably nothing more than that. I am looking for a comprehensive listing of the requirements at various school - websites? links?

1. SPECIFIC GPA requirements at various schools
2. Do I need to take additional tests? Substitute MCAT?
3. How long is graduate entry program at various schools (4, 5, 6 years?)

If you know where I can find this information, please help me. No more financial and immigration advices (to the person in the previous post).

This is the information I have:

Four-year graduate entry programme
In the last few years a number of medical schools have introduced fast-track graduate entry medical degree programmes. The accelerated graduate entry programme (GEP) leads to the same qualification as the usual undergraduate course (MB ChB, etc.) but takes only four years to complete. GEPs are currently offered by the following medical schools:
• Queen Mary, University of London
• King’s College School of Medicine (London)
• University of Birmingham
• University of Bristol
• University of Cambridge
• University of Leicester
• University of Liverpool
• University of Newcastle
• University of Nottingham
• University of Oxford
• University of Southampton
• St George’s, University of London
• University of Wales, Swansea
• University of Warwick.

Competition for GEP places is very intense and you will usually need at least an upper second class degree or the recognised equivalent. Some of the GEPs are only open to life science graduates or health science graduates, but those at St George’s, Cambridge, Newcastle, Nottingham, Southampton and Wales are open to graduates of any discipline (including arts graduates).

Now I just need to find information regarding some of these schools. I may need to contact every school for their specific requirements.

I know a girl with a U.S. B.A. who was recently been told by every British medical school that she cannot apply with that degree. They are asking her for English A-levels or a U.S. science degree. At best, one or two medical schools like Edinburgh offer a six-year medical degree where the first year is spent doing chemistry, biology, and physics but, again, that course is intended for a British high school graduate. I think that's your best shot. Keep in mind that Edinburgh also favours international students who come from countries where medical traiing is substandard and the U.S. is not one of those countries. Honestly, I think your chances are not good in the U.K. with a foreign B.A. I would complete your premed requirements and apply to U.S. M.D. and D.O. schools. Good luck.

[Scottish Chap]

No such website or list exists because you are trying to do something that is not mainstream. I think you're going to have to call each school and present your case. Edinburgh has an "h". Good luck!

[Meg01]

Heya,

I'm surprised that Edinburgh would be concerned about your degree. I know grads starting in Sept without a science degree (and only doing science school leaving qualifications this year - myself included). Fair enough they're not international students, but it would be worth asking!

There are a few places for graduates on the 4 year courses, I understand, but they are very very rare. The courses were designed, as already stated, to support the shortage of docs in the UK, and open medicine up to those people from non-traditional backgrounds. It's debatable whether the original vision still stands, but I think you'd probably have a much increased chance on a 5 year course. And as long as you have science school leaving qualifications, you should be fine. Unfortuantely, because you're an unusual case, the only way to get reliable information is to contact the schools yourself.

Good luck,

[USpremed01]

thanks a lot people. I really appreciate it.

[catpea33]

To further add to this discussion (and correct me if I'm wrong), none of the GEP courses are available to international students so if you're serious about doing a medical degree in the UK instead of the US then you would need to look into applying for the 5-year programme.

Catpea