"Spent conviction rules top student out of medical course..."

[Singh.Simran]

You're still wrong gimpy. You need to accept that your original point mistook having been caught for having been a criminal... i.e. a commiter of crime.

Frankly, were it shoved in the police's faces they would follow up alcohol, driving, criminal damage offences, etc etc ad nauseam - but 90% of people have committed at least one of these, knowingly or unknowingly. Playing around at school and write on a table, or break a piece of the physics equipment? Accidentally do 33 in a 30 zone? Actually want to be able to drink before uni? (My birthday was 7 days ago :|)

And this slippery slope is a REALLY fallacious one. There is a reason FtP hearings and so forth exist - because everything is to be judged on a case by case basis. There's no need to go hard arse and say any criminal act for which you have been caught, no more medicine for you, because the framework is there with which to draw the line. Allowing people who made mistakes in their youth is not the same as breeding a generation of Shipmans.

[gimperial99]

You clearly have problems simran. You seem to accuse people of things they not actually said.

You need to accept that your original point mistook having been caught for having been a criminal... i.e. a commiter of crime.

If someone has robbed people they should not be a doctor, whether they are caught or not. Its just that I do not think not being able to use a longbow can really be considered in that category. I take it you believe non longbow use to be a serious crime?

Frankly, were it shoved in the police's faces they would follow up alcohol, driving, criminal damage offences, etc etc ad nauseam - but 90% of people have committed at least one of these, knowingly or unknowingly. Playing around at school and write on a table, or break a piece of the physics equipment? Accidentally do 33 in a 30 zone? Actually want to be able to drink before uni? (My birthday was 7 days ago :|)

If you have a criminal record you should not be going to medical school. Speeding does not get you a criminal record (unless you are very reckless), whereas drink driving does. Police prosecute drivers all the time, but it does not show up.

Speaking for myself, I have not done any of the above.

You are obviously a serial criminal, but please do not tarnish the reputation of the good decent people who make up the majority of people who enter medical school.

Out of interest what is the figure 90% based on?

If god forbid you ever become a doctor (I base this on your admission of criminality), you will have to fill in a CRB form every year. Perhaps that is a waste of time in your opinion?


The real question we have to ask ourselves is this. This guy could become a GP where he will be doing home visits to YOUR mother. He will be in the house alone with her. Would you really be happy with that?

[moonshine]

Originally Posted by Singh.Simran

Actually, as has already been discussed, YOU think that.

Personally, i disagree on both counts. And thought i've never been burgled, i have been robbed which is close enough.

Actually, no, it wasn't me. It was in a diff thread, same topic..

Robbed is close [ if you mean it was akin to a mugging +/- violence].. but it's not the same. Burgled means they've been in your house, and through your stuff.. touched your clothes, your bed, your chair as well as taken your things. Being robbed might make you more cautious in that area next time, but burgled makes you feel unsafe in the place thats meant to be your sanctuary.

[agneishd]

Originally Posted by moonshine

Actually, no, it wasn't me. It was in a diff thread, same topic..

Robbed is close [ if you mean it was akin to a mugging +/- violence].. but it's not the same. Burgled means they've been in your house, and through your stuff.. touched your clothes, your bed, your chair as well as taken your things. Being robbed might make you more cautious in that area next time, but burgled makes you feel unsafe in the place thats meant to be your sanctuary.

heh, i think sim may know this... (law)

...and burglary doesn't necessarily mean breaking into a house - it can be any building - even a caravan for example, or a shop counter

being robbed can be much worse, depending on the circumstances

[agneishd]

Originally Posted by gimperial99

You clearly have problems simran. You seem to accuse people of things they not actually said.



If someone has robbed people they should not be a doctor, whether they are caught or not. Its just that I do not think not being able to use a longbow can really be considered in that category. I take it you believe non longbow use to be a serious crime?



If you have a criminal record you should not be going to medical school. Speeding does not get you a criminal record (unless you are very reckless), whereas drink driving does. Police prosecute drivers all the time, but it does not show up.

Speaking for myself, I have not done any of the above.

You are obviously a serial criminal, but please do not tarnish the reputation of the good decent people who make up the majority of people who enter medical school.

Out of interest what is the figure 90% based on?

If god forbid you ever become a doctor (I base this on your admission of criminality), you will have to fill in a CRB form every year. Perhaps that is a waste of time in your opinion?


The real question we have to ask ourselves is this. This guy could become a GP where he will be doing home visits to YOUR mother. He will be in the house alone with her. Would you really be happy with that?

why the personal attacking? i'd rather have sim as my doc, gimpy

you've totally lost it now

[gimperial99]

Originally Posted by agneishd

why the personal attacking? i'd rather have sim as my doc, gimpy

you've totally lost it now

Perhaps because he is insulting 90% of my colleagues. If he wishes to say that he is a criminal that is fine, but why tar everyone with his own guilt?

[agneishd]

Originally Posted by gimperial99

Perhaps because he is insulting 90% of my colleagues. If he wishes to say that he is a criminal that is fine, but why tar everyone with his own guilt?

his point is fair - and that is 90% (or more coming to think of it) of med school entrants have in some way broken the law... it doesn't make them "criminals", but the point stands

his guilt? he's just a normal chap...

[Seng]

random thread. The guy broke the law, he shouldn't get into medical school. Lot of people live in bad areas and turn out without criminal records and who are clever as well; pick them because they will be a safer bet. Why take a risk when there is no need to?

[Seng]

Also 90% of medical students break the law? lol thats total nonsense, I've been to uni and a most of medical students are law abiding, work-a-holics. My gf who is a medic for example is so scared of breaking the law in case the GMC kick her out. 90% is a huge exaggeration, no wonder gimperial was insulted.

[Gizmo says -]

Originally Posted by gimperial99

If you have a criminal record you should not be going to medical school. Speeding does not get you a criminal record (unless you are very reckless), whereas drink driving does. Police prosecute drivers all the time, but it does not show up.

as if.
you want to know ow many doctors are guilty of alcohol abuse and drink driving? they went thru circumstances in their medical career that were beyond their control that led to them drink driving. SO in your stoopid reasoning, exactly when were they unfit for med skool, when they applied for med skool or later in life? i expect you fink they should not ave gone to med skool either. your own colleagues.
stoopidly off target reasoning of yours, culminating in pointing out that simran is a serial killer and not fit for medicine.