Glasgow medics - help??

[Rida786]

well..

1. What way would you say the course is ? like system based, in a cycle, or is it kinda just random..
2. how are you assesed throughout the 5 years
3. what do they mean by early clinal practise,, is it like in yr 1 u have the hospital visits with ur VS tutor , and year 2 ur in GP etc?
4. V.S studies... what do u actully do? like how do u learn communication skills n proffesional standards and behaviour..

5. Also how much in dept do u think u need to know the course for your interview?
6. How long does each PBL senerio last.. like it ses u have 2 2 hr periods a week.. but then it ses 5 weeks :S so im a bit confused

THANKYOU so much

sorry for the amount of question.

[knowno]

Hi! Does anybody know if all international students need to apply for criminal record check?? N how do I go about it??

[Rex The Red]

@knowno, Probably cairncross as it has more non-erasmus students! Hate to say it mate but noise and parties are going to be where ever you go to some degree, as its basicly the definition of student halls! so dont worry too much about it.

Victoria halls i think are quite quiet, just because the way they're set up means that parties arent really so possible as there's less space and stuff, though, they arent very close to uni at all.


You are in wolfson alot purely because it's where the medical library is where you do all the studying, but for scheduled stuff you'll be in wolfson at least twice a week for PBL, and now and then VS and rarely some lectures in the seminar rooms.

Glasgow doesnt have a campus as such, but it's all based on university avenue (a road), and wolfson is right by everything, so yes, 15 minutes to wolfson + to where most of the stuff are.



Depends where you live for the minibus- everyone pretty much walks in in the mornings from murano as there's only one bus at about 8.40 which is usually rammed, i usually use it in the evenings to get home quickly or to pop into the library after dinner! If you're coming out of wolfson at about 6 you'll probably just go and wait for the bus as it's less effort.

And if you live in wolfson halls you certainly use the minibus all the time, however,its always rammed and the people that get the wolfson halls bus are insane about getting on it. so yeah.



@rida786

The course is based on 'the spiral of knowledge', that is, you learn the basics in first and second years, and then revisit them later on in greater detail, deepening your knowledge. SO i suppose its a cycle.


You are assesed through coursework and tests - In first year you have three bits of (pathetic) coursework and an exam (or two, im not sure )


By clinical practise they mean, in block 2 you spend a day in a stroke ward/GP surgery/old peoples home for VS, and a few weeks later you spend a day in the place in one of the places you didnt go to before and in block 4 you get to go to A+E/some other place and look around. Aswell as getting to visit patients in thier house in block 4 for your coursework interviews!

So its all good fun really.

VS studies, well, usually its boring as you like and you discuss stuff like the placebo effect or evidence based practise/professional behaviour, but now and then we do communication skills where you have to take a history from a simulated patient in the room next door, and everyone else gets to watch you through the video link! Nerve wracking most of the time, but really good practise. Some VS sessions as i said are in hospitals/GP surgeries and involve patient contact



As for the interview, i really dont know, however if im not mistaken you're given a handout with the course info on it and learning the basic structure of the course is a good thing as it shows interest!

PBL - It helps first if you understand how each pbl works; the time dedicated during each PBL session is an hour for the previous scenario and an hour for the next 'new' PBL scenario - obviously at the start and end of term there is no 'previous' or 'next' scenario, so they are only an hour.

You get your pbl on a monday (in year 1), you go then go away and research your points and then come back on the thursday, thus each scenario 'lasts' for four days (including the monday it was set) but each PBL session lasts two (or one) hours!

i hope that makes sense


p.s this is genuinely the longest comment in the history of mankind

[Skyllo]

You are assesed through coursework and tests - In first year you have three bits of (pathetic) coursework and an exam (or two, im not sure )

There's two papers on the one day, the marks are added together and you need to pass overall. There's also the MILE - a 24 hour project which you'll do soon!

In second year there's an OSCE and an SSC in addition to the exams and coursework, both of which you must pass.

In third year, there's exams, one piece of coursework (which is 4 essays but graded as one), two SSCs and an OSCE. Again, fail one bit and you fail the year.

VS studies, well, usually its boring as you like and you discuss stuff like the placebo effect or evidence based practise/professional behaviour, but now and then we do communication skills where you have to take a history from a simulated patient in the room next door, and everyone else gets to watch you through the video link! Nerve wracking most of the time, but really good practise. Some VS sessions as i said are in hospitals/GP surgeries and involve patient contact

Second year gets more interesting as you learn the systems examinations and you get to go to either hospital or GP for a few sessions to practice this (although these vary in usefulness.) There's no VS in third year, just comm skills sessions, which are a lot more difficult (and you're actually the doctor so no more hiding behind the student mask!)


The pros and cons of PBL is quite a common interview question. There's a brief bit about it here:

University of Glasgow :: Cancer Sciences and Molecular Pathology :: PBL

[jay-mob]

Hey I am a 4th year, I would seriously consider thinking about PBL, I personally don't agree with 100% pbl, a 50/50% course is better like edinburgh as it gives you the best of both worlds. It's not just being in the anti-pbl camp, but simply that anything 100% is not good.

As according to Paracelsus: "No thing is without poison. The dosage makes it either a poison or a remedy."

Someone should have warned me before I had started, else I would have gone somewhere else as well. The only upside is that I have met some of the greatest people that have influenced me, so much for my advice!

[Skyllo]

PBL is very personal to your learning style I feel - I'm very much a fan of it as I retain things a lot better from finding it out myself than from didactic teaching. One afternoon of lectures is more than enough for me!

[destined]

hey, quick question; how recent should the recent issues you talk about be??
& is it ok to talk abt things which have advanced research wise (eg stem cells) but not had much impact on patients as yet??

[scohoust]

I think you could get away with that. You may not even be asked to talk too much, a general awareness of some medical issues probably more important that learning a speech.