If you could do it all again...would you?

[algy_lacey]

Originally Posted by No Future

Ouch. As an HCA straight out of school I get just over £1000/month

Unless you're paid way better than I was, surely you take home rather less than £1000/month after the tax-man has had his share? My take-home pay as a HCA was often more like £750-800 even though I worked a lot of enhanced hours (evenings and weekends). Admittedly, the tax-office were a little over-zealous and they do owe me a decent refund , but even if they'd been taxing me correctly, I would still have taken home significantly less than £900/month.

[rjm]

Originally Posted by No Future

Ouch. As an HCA straight out of school I get just over £1000/month

Is that pre or post-tax?

the pay as a junior doctor is rubbish, noone could tell me i'm doing it for the money, i could go into the city and do something earning a lot more, i could have chosen to do a different specialty and got paid more but i'd rather do a job i love and get paid slightly less.

[Spencer Wells]

Originally Posted by Arch_Angel

Naturally, what sort of crazy institution would train people at £250,000 a pop to foster their own interest is a subject?

I'm quite convinced that it actually costs more than that. My hospital gets £200,000 per student (there are 380 of us) per year to take us on for clinical training, so already that's £600,000 in clinical years alone. Preclins I imagine are cheaper, but still...
I'm not sure where all that money comes from, but I imagine that no small amount comes from the government.

[Dr Noodle]

Originally Posted by rjm
current take home pay is £1440/month,

Guess no one bedroom apartments for the interns

[rjm]

Originally Posted by Dr Noodle

Guess no one bedroom apartments for the interns

Well, I (and the bank) own a 2 bed apartment, so its possible, depends where obviously. mu mortgage takes up most of my wage, but thats probably true of most people.

[Singh.Simran]

Originally Posted by Spencer Wells

I'm quite convinced that it actually costs more than that. My hospital gets £200,000 per student (there are 380 of us) per year to take us on for clinical training, so already that's £600,000 in clinical years alone. Preclins I imagine are cheaper, but still...
I'm not sure where all that money comes from, but I imagine that no small amount comes from the government.

I've heard it quoted as 3/4 of a million pounds per medical student, which sounds much more like it. The lesser figure is LESS than what internationals would have to pay (i think).

And almost all from the government i guess, puts top up fees into perspective.

[Arch_Angel]

Yea, I can't really see where else would fund it....

Any ideas Mr Wells? I wonder where we've got the figure of £250,000 from? Also, I guess it depends on the hospital. A place equipt to deal with many students will probably average them out cheaper, a place with fewer or a newer one that is establishing student services will probably come out on the higher end.

Economies of scale and venture capital respectively if you like.

That said I'm only guessing so if anyone can give a real perspective of how money is distributed about....

[Spencer Wells]

The 250,000 is a figure from before I applied to medical school (it's been floating around since 2002 at least) and is oft quoted, so there will be a reference somewhere. At my medical school at least, smaller hospitals get less money per student. While UCH gets 200k per student per year, the Whittington gets only 60k despite having the same number of students. When I was at DGH they were getting only a couple of grand per student for the 4 week blocks that we're there.

[rjm]

That 250,000 figure has been floating around since before I started med school in 2000 also! It must have gone up a bit since then.

[Arch_Angel]

While UCH gets 200k per student per year, the Whittington gets only 60k despite having the same number of students. When I was at DGH they were getting only a couple of grand per student for the 4 week blocks that we're there.

Is there any difference in what activities you do there? Any obvious reason why there is such a big difference?