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    Post PBL, Tradtional or Both?

    Just thought it might be helpful if we did some sort of tally of what each medical school does, PBL, Traditional or Integrated.

    TRADITIONAL = a subjects based course of lectures (ie you do an anatomy course, a physiology course a biochemistry course etc, all of which are completely separate) this type of teaching is synonymous with Oxbridge, and tends to have the traditonal preclinical/clinical break after 3rd year. Almost all teaching is lecture based.

    INTEGRATED = Is the GMC's recommended new approach to medicine; instead of teaching anatomy and physiology etc etc as separate courses, the idea is to join them into systems (aka the systems based approach) where you will take a bodily system, such as the circulatory system and consider the anatomy, physiology, biochemistry, pharmacology, pathology of it all at once. The new integrated approach also encourages early patient contact and self directed learning. Much of the teaching has a basis in lectures, supplemented with tutorials and your own self-directed work.

    However there have been many intepretations of how this new integrated approach can be implemented, one of the big 'different intepretations' was pioneered by Manchester and is what we refer to as PBL

    PBL = in its purest form puts the absolute focus on self directed and tutorial based learning. You are given a 'problem' often a clinically related one, and are basically left to your own devices (as a group) to learn about the various aspects of it. Many medical schools use some form of PBL, even if its just for one module like in Leeds. PBL has the emphasis in self-directed learning suplemmented by lectures.
    NOTE: These are not finalised and should not be quoted as accurate, we're only compiling data at the moment.

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    Aberdeen Medical School

    Barts and The London School of Medicine and Dentistry - Integrated

    Queens University Belfast Medical School - Traditional

    Birmingham Medical School

    Bristol Medical School - Integrated

    Brighton and Sussex Medical School - Integrated

    Bute Medical School St Andrews

    Cambridge Medical School - Traditional

    Cardiff Medical School - Integrated

    Dundee Medical School - Integrated

    Durham Medical School - Integrated

    University of East Anglia Medical School - Integrated

    Edinburgh Medical School - Integrated

    Glasgow Medical School - PBL

    Guy’s King’s and St Thomas’ (GKT) School of Medicine - Integrated

    Hull York Medical School - Integrated/PBL

    Imperial College School of Medicine - Integrated

    Keele University Medical School - PBL

    Leeds Medical School - Integrated

    Leicester Medical School - Integrated

    Liverpool Medical School - PBL

    Manchester Medical School - PBL

    Newcastle Medical School - Integrated

    Nottingham and Derby Medical School - Integrated

    Oxford Medical School - Traditional

    Peninsula Medical School - PBL

    Royal Free and University College Medical School - Integrated

    Sheffield Medical School - Integrated

    Southampton Medical School - Integrated

    St George's Hospital Medical School - Integrated

    Swansea Medical School

    Warwick Medical School - Integrated

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    I'll update these as I get more info, either from posts or my own reading. Thanks to all who've contributed.
    Last edited by Murkey; 20-01-2007 at 06:55 PM.

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    Four new ones are def PBL, as is glasgow (i think).
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    umm... which ones are the new ones?

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    Brighton and Sussex
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    Actually i meant the four completly new ones: Hull York, Brighton, Peninsula and East Anglia, but Keele also has PBL!
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    BSMS
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    ? 4th one

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    these are moslty PBL however PMS is totally PBL, they are the extreme PBL med school....
    had a look round the knowledge spar on PMS truro campus which is situated right by treliske the busiest hospital in cornwall - its fantastic.

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    sheffield is integrated
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    My experience with Leeds so far is that it's integrated, but almost all of what you need to know (in the first term of the first year anyway) is covered in lectures.
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    Warwick is integrated, as is Leicester. I don't believe BSMS is PBL - from looking at their course and reading comments on the forum it appears to be more integrated. However I could be wrong, I suggest you ask someone who is actually on the course.
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