Wt is the course like?

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Hi,

I have got a few questions regarding to St Andrew.

1) What is the course structure / timetable like?
2) If I decided to got to manchester at cliclical yrs, how would I be taught

[sambo2]

2) Manchester is a PBL course - but you have the scientific and knowledge basis with which to cope with this from bute and so is (I think) a much more enticing prospect than preclinical PBL.

1) The course is structured into 2 1st year 'foundation modules' which cover the basics of medicine ie broad overviews and lots of Molevular medicine as well as the back and the limbs in disection.
After the foundation, the course is a spiral curriculum and you work through the systems/ regions in turn. Then in the final part of third year you do a research dissertation. The course is lecture based and uses practicals and proper dissections still - see the website and pm me if you have more q's

[MagicOmlet]

Sorry, that I kinda hijack that Thread but I can' open a new one (some fatal memory error) but it kind of fit in here, too.

Hi,
I just started reading about St Andrews. Until now I actually quite like it: small community, everything is in easy reach, a fair bit of history and tradition,…
But do start to wonder whether the 3 year course is really good?
You have to change uni, it will take you 6 instead of 5 years to finish the course, there is not really a teaching hospital (unlike for example at Dundee).
Or am I missing something? What do you think about it - good or not so good?
What are the positive sides of it?
Thanks for your help!

[sambo2]

3 year course is very beneficial in many ways. Firstly the course is still very small, this means you form close relationships with your peers and the staff (we are on first name terms after a term.. - well not the profs but our module controllers). You get a BSc degree which gives you extra points for MTAS. Also we still do a proper dissection and basic science labs but do clinical stuff as well since we have an extra year to play with. There is no major teaching hospital as such, but we get placements at the community hospital and throughout fife, often at GP's. This is good because they don't get many students at all and so are very keen to teach. They tell us in clinical skills that next year we will get afternoons in the hospital taking GCS's/histories/BP's, looking at tests etc.. I think this already happens in 2nd year actually but I'm not sure. There is also talk of a long clinical attachment at the end of 3rd year but this is still very much in the pipeline apparently but they say it could realisitcally start in 2012 ie in time for you. So yes clinical experience is limited but there are opportunities to get some - and anyway, why would you want to be trailing round a ward knowing nothing about any of the cases you where seeing and being completly useless.. if you ask the clinicians in Dundee they say St Andrean 3rd years have far better knowledge than their dundee counterparts and the lecturers we get over from ninewells already joke about how far ahead of dundee we are.

In terms of moving uni, it's true but consider if you go to most other medical schools you don't stay in the same place. ie in manchester there are 4/5 teaching bases and the story is true across the country - you will still get posted to district generals etc and so won't stay with your friends wherever you go.. moving university is quite exciting really, you get two university experiences whilst many other medics only get one? depends on how you see this I guess but I think most people are looking forward to manchester rather than fearing it..

[MagicOmlet]

Thanks for your answer. I wouldn't mind moving the uni - always open for something new