Filthy Extremist

**jxh487** · 04-07-2007, 10:45 AM

The following is a video of a medical student at or who has been at Birmingham Uni med school: http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/nol/new...tm?bw=bb&mp=wm

It is both disgusting and frightening to think that muslim doctors and medical students in the UK are betraying the country that pays their way by enlisting in the sick and unworthy practice of Jihad.

Unfortunately this means we have to be weary of muslims in medical practice and at uni doing medicine, and with that will come discrimination, racism and distrust from peers, and it wouldn't surprise me if patients refuse to be seen by muslim doctors, simply because of their beliefs.

It's just scary and sad that this has officially moved into the realm of medicine, which I believe should be separated from religion. Religion has no place in a scientific discipline.

**Dick Cheney** · 04-07-2007, 02:17 PM

You will find more white BNP supporters amongst the medical professional than you will militant jihadis.

I can't disagree with your views on religion though.

**pnx031** · 04-07-2007, 03:01 PM

really really sad. It will certainly bring discrimination against muslim doctors but it's sad to say that it is certainly expected to do so. At bham uni I remember signing the code of conduct? or whatever that is that says you can't hide your face, ie no veil... so there's still some discrimination there.
Truly though, religion and medicine are really two separate things.

**Dick Cheney** · 04-07-2007, 03:14 PM

I don't agree that the code of conduct is a form of discrimination. Rather, certain people are trying to claim preferential treatment on the grounds of which supernatural deity they happen believe in.

It would not permissible for me to practice medicine wearing a bag over my head, or for me to refuse to touch women on the grounds that they are unclean. Why should someone be able to gain exemption to behave in such a way because they believe in a bronze age deity?

It has taken centuries of fighting by the common people of this country to progress to where we are today: equal rights for all, civil liberties, public education and the triumph of science over superstition.

**pnx031** · 04-07-2007, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by Dick Cheney

I don't agree that the code of conduct is a form of discrimination. Rather, certain people are trying to claim preferential treatment on the grounds of which supernatural deity they happen believe in.

It would not permissible for me to practice medicine wearing a bag over my head, or for me to refuse to touch women on the grounds that they are unclean. Why should someone be able to gain exemption to behave in such a way because they believe in a bronze age deity?

It has taken centuries of fighting by the common people of this country to progress to where we are today: equal rights for all, civil liberties, public education and the triumph of science over superstition.

I never said I disagree with it. If I did I would not sign it.
Discrimination it is though, as it doesn't allow them to wear whatever they want to.
Nevertheless it is true that in this profession your face should be shown and you should be able to touch "unclean" women and there should be no exceptions to the rule because that would be discrimination towards other people that do follow the rules.

**Dick Cheney** · 04-07-2007, 03:53 PM

Discrimination in the commonly accepted meaning of the word is to apply different rules to people according some criteria. For example, refusing to employ someone on the grounds of their race or sexual orientation.

Of course, it could be argued that by imposing conditions which apply to everybody but only affect a minority, discrimination against that minority is occurring.

**hippo_doc** · 04-07-2007, 05:14 PM

Where do you stand on the Scooter Libby issue, Mr Cheney?

**kofi** · 04-07-2007, 06:31 PM

muslim this, muslim that
they(muslim/chinese/russian or whoevers witchunt is going on) do this, they do that

what about we(british/west) did this, we did that, and we do this

how hypocratical people are

first think about what you(whatever country or ethnicity you belong to) do before you blindly judge other people

**pnx031** · 04-07-2007, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by kofi

muslim this, muslim that
they(muslim/chinese/russian or whoevers witchunt is going on) do this, they do that

what about we(british/west) did this, we did that, and we do this

how hypocratical people are

first think about what you(whatever country or ethnicity you belong to) do before you blindly judge other people

wth man... seriously tho...

Nobody said that the British and American's ARENT to blame for the terrorism. They are solely to blame as they started everything.
Now that we judged ourselves... let's not bomb ourselves because we hate terrorists.

**Dick Cheney** · 04-07-2007, 08:22 PM

Going back to jxh487's original post, it is important to take this in context and not tar the whole muslim population with the same brush as those idiots. To do so would be no different than grouping a C of E Sunday congregation with the Ku Klux Klan or crazed members of the Orange Order.