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Barts and The London (QMUL) School of Medicine and Dentistry
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22-11-2008, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by f_debelder
Eh? Sounds like your saying medics trained before weren't competent....your course structure was changed because the year needed to be shortened for homogeneity with the other London schools and the fact that we all complained last year that the course was too easy.
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You complained that the course was TOO EASY???
>.< Why would you do such a thing like that?
I thought it was changed because of the GMC reviewing the college this year.
And increasing the grades maybe due to change in the course structure as well.
I didn't mean to say that medics trained before were incompetent, although after reading what i said it does sound like that. I'm just saying that BL are probably trying to train BETTER medics by modifiying the course structure which probably requires more academically minded medics to deal with the shortened space of time. So that it can regain it's once glorious reputation.
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23-11-2008, 12:45 AM
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Funmed is piss mate
What we and the previous years basically said was there was a lot of time being wasted in the course and the loads of irrelevant stuff like way too much comms. skills etc...in cardio I remember having two hours of lectures a day, being finished by 11 and thinking what am I going to do the rest of the day! Especially considering all of the school leavers came from a 9-5 environment, they wouldnt necesarily be bothered by a fuller day. So, they gave you longer holidays for a busier year. Apparently though, the changes made to the course of Curriculum 2008 compared to Curriculum 2000 have been "mostly cosmetic", according to our PBL tutor. The GMC are the reason everyone was issued course folders though, imo  .
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23-11-2008, 01:38 AM
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#23 (permalink)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by f_debelder
Funmed is piss mate
What we and the previous years basically said was there was a lot of time being wasted in the course and the loads of irrelevant stuff like way too much comms. skills etc...in cardio I remember having two hours of lectures a day, being finished by 11 and thinking what am I going to do the rest of the day! Especially considering all of the school leavers came from a 9-5 environment, they wouldnt necesarily be bothered by a fuller day. So, they gave you longer holidays for a busier year. Apparently though, the changes made to the course of Curriculum 2008 compared to Curriculum 2000 have been "mostly cosmetic", according to our PBL tutor. The GMC are the reason everyone was issued course folders though, imo  .
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Lol that may be so, but it doesn't help with all the student's revising like crazy on the first exam, even if it isn't worth anything.
Well if you look at it from our year's point of view, most school leaver's dont' do a 9-5 they have quite a few free periods. And the gap years go from doing nothing to 9-5, as well as having to re-learn all the stuff they forgot in the year.
Lol I'm all in favour of long holidays but 4 months is kinda a joke, I mean considering that students just cram for finals, it's most likely that we will forget everything by end of the holiday.
Lol cosmetic xD, seems like they did some liposuction.
And i think the huge folder was a good thing, it looks more 'professional' although most people don't even bother looking through it. I was telling everyone that Funmed was only 5% of our MBBS 1 and no one took notice of it.
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24-11-2008, 06:57 PM
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Cosmetic? Hardly. You had a couple of weeks to prep for the FunMed exam last year, apparently. We finish our last lecture on the Wednesday, have MedSoc on the Thurs, and sit the exam on the Friday.
Hmmm...
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24-11-2008, 07:46 PM
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Bear in mind it counts 20% of Paper A and you need to pass Paper A to progress to year 2.
I'm going to fail hardly started revising and CE6 is annoying.
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24-11-2008, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by purple_monkey
You complained that the course was TOO EASY???
>.< Why would you do such a thing like that?
I thought it was changed because of the GMC reviewing the college this year.
And increasing the grades maybe due to change in the course structure as well.
I didn't mean to say that medics trained before were incompetent, although after reading what i said it does sound like that. I'm just saying that BL are probably trying to train BETTER medics by modifiying the course structure which probably requires more academically minded medics to deal with the shortened space of time. So that it can regain it's once glorious reputation.
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you still misunderstand.
the world is divided between those who feel the med skool needs to rebuild it, an those who know it isnt needing to.
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(i like this song! (theme from 'OUSE BUNNY, me fav film this year). it reminds me of 'iro Nakamura lost in NY, or posh chinesey georgies medics wandering off campus into town, or me at freshers week hehehe)
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24-11-2008, 09:37 PM
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I had a look at the Year 1 stuff just now for Funmed on webCT, nothing's changed from last year in terms of the course. Weird stuff about the way assessment has changed, they have renamed a lot of the stuff (Like what was paper AI is now Bi, Paper B is now Paper C+D) but it is basically the same.
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Bear in mind it counts 20% of Paper A and you need to pass Paper A to progress to year 2.
I'm going to fail hardly started revising and CE6 is annoying.
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No, it doesn't. It counts for 20% of paper A, which you have to be retarded not to pass. It's stuff like Medsoc attendance, PBL attendance, PBL writeup, ICAs. When you consider the rest of the years ICAS like CR and Met are worth 3-5% of that paper.... When you work out exactly how much paper A is worth out of the year (Paper A, Bi, Bii and C+D (they will be in the same exam) ) and then work out how much that 20% of Funmed is worth, you will wonder why you wasted so much time on it. Everyone does it, don't feel bad.
And even if you do fail, its hardly the end of the world. Nothing will happen, except your academic tutor or whatever they call it now will ask you what happened. That is, if you turn up to the appointment. The ICAs don't count for much at all really, it is all about Paper Bi and Bii (EMQs and SAQs at the end of the year that you need to worry about). Noone is turfing you out if you fail an ICA.
A lot of the Funmed stuff is completely irrelevant also, you will kinda get the way the exams work after you had a couple. For example, a random lecture we had last year that I found on webCT, under pathology-the microbial world 2008...about 90% of that shit is irrelevant and I would bet money that most of it never turns up. I just learn this morning what the different Shigella bacteria are, no idea what the hell any of the faculative pathogens are.
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Last edited by f_debelder; 24-11-2008 at 09:49 PM.
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26-11-2008, 07:31 PM
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A couple of weeks to prepare for Funmed last year, you MUST be joking. We had the same sparse day or two that you do mate. Don't diss the upper years, it won't make you popular. We're often on here to help so don't undermine those who go before until you've spent a bit more time getting to understand how the med school works...
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26-11-2008, 07:36 PM
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By the way, one of the aims of the school is to be higher in the med schools ranking system. One of the criteria that gets you points is how high your requirements are to gain entry, hence higher grades required = more points. It's all about the rankings...
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27-11-2008, 01:00 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by f_debelder
I had a look at the Year 1 stuff just now for Funmed on webCT, nothing's changed from last year in terms of the course. Weird stuff about the way assessment has changed, they have renamed a lot of the stuff (Like what was paper AI is now Bi, Paper B is now Paper C+D) but it is basically the same.
No, it doesn't. It counts for 20% of paper A, which you have to be retarded not to pass. It's stuff like Medsoc attendance, PBL attendance, PBL writeup, ICAs. When you consider the rest of the years ICAS like CR and Met are worth 3-5% of that paper.... When you work out exactly how much paper A is worth out of the year (Paper A, Bi, Bii and C+D (they will be in the same exam) ) and then work out how much that 20% of Funmed is worth, you will wonder why you wasted so much time on it. Everyone does it, don't feel bad.
And even if you do fail, its hardly the end of the world. Nothing will happen, except your academic tutor or whatever they call it now will ask you what happened. That is, if you turn up to the appointment. The ICAs don't count for much at all really, it is all about Paper Bi and Bii (EMQs and SAQs at the end of the year that you need to worry about). Noone is turfing you out if you fail an ICA.
A lot of the Funmed stuff is completely irrelevant also, you will kinda get the way the exams work after you had a couple. For example, a random lecture we had last year that I found on webCT, under pathology-the microbial world 2008...about 90% of that shit is irrelevant and I would bet money that most of it never turns up. I just learn this morning what the different Shigella bacteria are, no idea what the hell any of the faculative pathogens are.
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Thanks for your concise reply. What i'm saying if I totally FLOP this exam then you loose out on 25% (not 20) of Paper A. Considering you need then 50/75, it becomes a far harder challange to pass.
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