graduate entry to medicine

**adina** · 15-06-2005, 02:50 AM

I am trying to get hold of a comprehensive list of medical schools that accept graduates. Any suggestions on where to locate this? I have found some info, but it may be out of date.
Also can anyone comment on the difference between GAMSAT and MSAT and their relative 'ease' (or not!)? I am hoping someone who has recently been down this route, or knows of someone who has, might be able to give me their top tips... I am very grateful to anyone willing to spend a moment commenting on these questions.
Thanks v. much! Adina

**alilel** · 15-06-2005, 03:20 AM

As far as I know, all medicals schools accept graduates on both 5 and 4 year courses, although some are for mature friendly than others. Have a look on the UCAS website for all medical course http://search.ucas.co.uk/cgi-bin/hsr...ICINE&single=Y

I not sure on GAMSAT and MSAT but I think that MSAT is generally thought of as 'nicer'.

Also, have a read of exms's Mature FAQ for more info. http://www.geocities.com/alexism1974/maturefaq.htm

HTH

PS This wil probably get moved to mature forum by some lovely mod at some stage

**Jiny** · 15-06-2005, 11:04 AM

GAMSAT is a very long day of exams where MSAT is only one session. The biggest difference is that GAMSAT includes a time-pressured science paper based on A-level standard knowledge but looking for more ability to manipulate the information.

They both include two half-hour essays. Both are (or were anyway) a discussion of a philosophical-type statement for GAMSAT. One MSAT essay is the same, and the other involves commenting on information from a range of sources including graphic (eg set of graphs, newspaper comments, etc on population changes in Chad).

Both have a 'logical thinking' paper which is quite fun if you like puzzling things out.

MSAT also has a 'touchy-feely' paper which tries to test your interpersonal understanding. GAMSAT does include the odd question of this type in its 'logical thinking' paper. It's quite pleasant to do, but impossible to know whether your answer is right. eg Why do assertiveness courses teach participants to echo the other person's point of view. Is it a. to show empathy b. to show that they have understood the argument c. to show that they have considered the other person's input d. to show that they agree.

The results, based on myself and others on this forum, seem to tally fairly well with each other. I don't think that you are likely to do much better at one than the other unless you don't know any science. I suppose that it's not too surprising as they are produced and marked by the same organisation I believe.

**FUNERAL4AFREIND ROCK** · 15-06-2005, 02:19 PM

GAMSAT is torture

**adina** · 17-06-2005, 02:58 AM

Thanks for the pointers in your replies.
What exactly about GAMSAT is torture? It seems to go on for a fair while, and put you under pressure of time as well (by the accounts I have now seen), but is there something else too?
Adina x
ps I also have noted a theme in older postings; that you are 'sworn to secrecy' aboutthe exams and interviews etc. What's all that about eh?

**FUNERAL4AFREIND ROCK** · 17-06-2005, 12:19 PM

hey Adine, a couple of things about GAMSAT, it is very advisable you revise for it, that means buying all the exam questions, finding A level biology, chemisty and physics revision books. Its really long, i couldnt even walk properly after thinking for like 7 or 8 hours. IT is stressful, you have to do questions to a strict timming, and at any time during the exam, you could just mess it up and mess up your chances of getting into medicine. Its also more expensive than other exams, i think i payed 190 pounds. It has like philosphical, englishy, disscussion like essays, which i hated especially doing two in an hour. Now all this is probably just looking at the bad points but together with all my university work i found it very hard. Strangely i did much better on it than MSAT, but missed cut off point by 1 mark.

**beachtaf** · 11-07-2005, 11:22 PM

Sorry to ask, this question must have been asked a million times before, but what is the cut off point for the MSAT needed for this institution

Thanks
Beachtaf

**gonzo** · 11-07-2005, 11:31 PM

It was in the region 89 - 91. I'm not sure of a specific cut off (or if there was one).

Originally Posted by beachtaf

Sorry to ask, this question must have been asked a million times before, but what is the cut off point for the MSAT needed for this institution

Thanks
Beachtaf