Gray's anatomy for students V.S. Moore's clinically oriented anatomy

[Frank E]

Moore and Dalley is excellent. I prefer it to Gray's

If only to get through exams, I'd go for M&Ds' smaller sister pulication Moore and Agur Essential Anatomy (It has been used in the past in my local med school for 1st year (check it's sufficient for your course). I didn't like M&A to start with but having used it a few times now I've got to like it for it's mid range detail. The operative word in th title is 'essential' so know one is not learning superfluous details or spending time and effort filtering extraneous infromation when there is so much to learn in other subjects.
Think I'll look at Moore and Dalley ECA when I 'need' to integrate more detail. I left enough white space on the notes I took to trace in more detailed illustrations later.

I love the series of videos by Prof Diamond featured above as a systemic introduction. For me it's good to learn systemically and regionally. Depends on the exams and how much detail one needs, her block drawings are sufficient to point out features of structures how they articulate, insert etc.

I wish Anatomy compilers would arrange their illustrations in third angle projection and not put a superior view next to an anterior one instead of below. Makes it so much easier to see the spacial relationship between details of a structure and form a three dimensional mental image of the structure. Still, it's good to get the tracing paper and drafting pens out, draw the views properly and learn kinaesthetically.

Edit: Oops clicked on this in 'related threads', not 'current threads'.

[PURPLE-FLOWER]

we do a negligible amount of anatomy here - we don't even have to know insertion and exertion (or whatever it's called) of muscles, just the function of the main ones, and their innervation.

really?! Happy days! At warwick we have to know it inside out....

insertion and exertion (or whatever it's called)

lol

I find it amazing that you [Bex X sorry] don't need to know origins and insertions!

yeah me too! I agree that knowing the origins and insertions makes identifying and relating the muscles soooo much easier on the other hand imagine how much less revision you would have to do if you didn't have to learn them lol.

Bex, at your uni do you do anatomy as a module or is it integrated into other modules over the years? Just wondering because at warwick we do musculoskeletal as a module then I don't think we have it again so pretty much reliant on remembering it, whereas if we had it as part of many modules over the years, that might be a easier way to remember?

[Nancy]

I'm like Bex, never learnt insertion of muscles and just learnt the main muscle groups. I bought Moore and Dalley, but really wish I hadn't bothered as it is far too much information that is really not necessary to know and the whole book is badly organised. If I could go back in time I would have just bought the small mini version of Moore and Dalley and used Anatomy at a Glance. I can't say that any of the extra details I learnt from Moore and Dalley have been even remotely useful for the clinical part of medicine. If you want to be a surgeon you're going to need all the details then, but you're probably better off learning the details in context when it is needed.

[Pammy]

To be honest I don't think the mini M&D version is so mini. I actually read a lot of the chapters in paralell in both, and find they are almost exact copies. Only the "mini" book shrinks down the tables to about a third of the size, cuts out half the diagrams, and leaves out many of the clinical boxes. I actually prefer the larger book as the diagrams are what I need!

[Gizmo says -]

remember that droves of med students buy books becos they are conditioned to do so, not becos its the smart fing to do.

fink independently. use the library's books.
man, you are paying £3000 a year to the med skool for a very good reason!

plus you'll all 'ave some more spare bob to 'elp out
atypical med student Pauper Pete, who wouldda dropped out in the first year if you werent there to elp im.

your friends matter, not the bucks you spend on you.

[Paul28]

I owned Gray's anatomy and it's fine. Never tried Moore's clinically oriented anatomy.