12-05-2006, 01:47 AM #11
I spent some time shadowing anaesthetists on work experience and their work was way more interesting and varied than I had ever thought it would be. One was telling me about travelling with a neonate in an ambulance that broke down, and having to make some really vital decisions on that and other occasions; another was describing the difficulties of treating such a wide variety of people, different every time in weight, age, sex, physiology, allergies, conditions etc. I did get the feeling that it would be a very interesting specialty, much more than I would have thought before.
12-05-2006, 06:49 PM #12
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I'm doing a placement in anaesthetics (and critical care, but I've limited my contact with ITU) at the moment and it's been fantastic.
It's grounded in really good physiology, but still allows you to practice the "art of medicine" - patients that are ostensibly the same react entirely differently to anaesthetic drugs. You really have to think on your feet!
14-05-2006, 09:46 PM #13
I never thought much about anaesthetics until I spent some time in theatre with anaesthetists - then I found it absolutely fascinating! The anaesthetists I've met have been great people who are really knowledgeable about the physiology of the patient, how all the equipment works and how all the drugs act, and most of them seem friendly and keen to teach as well and will have me doing things like working out how long a patient can survive without ventilation after being given 100% oxygen for a few minutes first.
It seems to be a challenging job as there are so many factors interacting with each other e.g. the patient's heart rate increases and the anaesthetist has to figure out if it's the surgery, an effect of a drug, the patient getting light, fluid balance or something more serious like malignant hyperthermia - and then decide what to do about it!
I also liked seeing the communication side of it: I always thought that it was a specialty with very little (awake) patient contact but it's the anaesthetist chatting to and reassuring the patient pre-op and then when surgery is over the anaesthetist is the one waking the patient, talking to them, managing their pain, handing them over to the recovery staff etc. whilst the surgeons have often gone for a coffee!
It's definitely a specialty I'm considering and I'd advise any med students who don't really know what it's about to try and spend some time with the anaesthetist next time they're in theatre.
02-06-2006, 02:14 PM #14
ummmmm.......interesting!!!!.... admittedly, having never worked in a surgical ward, i never actually thought much of an anaesathist...... i was under an impression that its quite a repetitive job where u use 1-method-fits-all approach 2 every case n u r jst stuck on da sidelines while da surgeons have all da fun slicing n dicing....and take all da credit for da good work.....
it does sound quite fascinating line of wrk.......
few questions though..... how competitive is anaesthesia, say as compared to general sugery? and wots da training structure like? wot abt pay? working hours etc? do u get any time for research or other medical-related activities?forzaITALIAWC2006... come'on azzurri
03-06-2006, 04:12 PM #15Originally Posted by the_last_1_left_again
Competition has been increasing in recent years, and the post-grad exams are arguably harder than most - as there are more anaesthetists than any other single in-hospital specialty there are fewer applicants per place than for general surgery or cardiology so it is in that way less competative.
Training structures are all about to change (thank you MMC) -but it will probably look like - Foundation years, then apply for anaesthesia training - 2 years as a junior trainee and get your first part exam (FRCA primary) then five years senior during which you would get your final FRCA. Some folk will come through an acute specialties common training programme (A+E, Acute medicine, anaesthetics and ITU) and will probably do one year less at junior level (i.e. 8 in total rather than 7 if you just do anaesthesia).
Pay is on the same scale as all other NHS doctors - and there are reasonable private practice oportunities if you like that sort of thing.
Hours of work - depends on what you do -as a trainee a lot of anaesthesia occurs durign the day time, but emergency surgery, ITU and obstetrics need out of hours cover. As a consultant if you stay away from ITU/obstetrics then the out of hours work is not too frequent.
27-06-2006, 07:02 PM #16
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im a bit confused here....so to qualify as an anesthetist 14 yrs r required? 5 yrs of med school, 2 yrs pre-registration and another 7 for specialisation? im going into med school in october and i find anaesthetics particularly fascinating but 14 yrs seems like an awful lot to me....
27-06-2006, 07:14 PM #17
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is it like 7 years post grad training for this career???
27-06-2006, 08:04 PM #18
No one knows - its all up in the air.Dr Jake
Warwick Medical School Graduate
F2 Doctor Oxford Foundation School
27-06-2006, 08:40 PM #19
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It is up in the air, but most surgical and allied specialties will all but certainly require no less than 5-7 years post Foundation programme, exactly how that is organised if you come through different streams will alter things. (see jchst website - that is joint committee for higher surgical training). Medical is estimated at present but excected 4-6 years post FP.
All very difficult to predict as this assumes direct entry to specialty training, and doesn't encompass more generic training streams feeding in later, and that you get your preferred specialty post FP in the first place.
Yes when you add in medical school it is a long time for any specialty, its rare to find a consultant at 30 (from 1st degree) under current training, so 14 years not extreme.
27-06-2006, 10:20 PM #20
14 years is a completely reasonable length of time to train to become a fully independent specialist in an area of medicine - the majority of this time will be spent as a doctor, working in medicine. To be able to function independently requires years of training and experience.
14 years sounds like for ever when you are 17 (being over 3/4 of your life so far). It dosen't sound so long when you pick up your consultant's name badge for the first time.