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Touche · 16-05-2008, 06:53 AM

Ooooh, I'm late to the party

I do feel giving families a nudge into getting their kids vaccinated is a good idea. I like the way France approach it... vaccination is voluntary, schooling is not... to go to school you need vaccinations

If you don't wanna get your kids vaccinated you could always leave the country :P

I'm not going to spend hours digging into Wakefield's paper, partly because it's so far from my area of interest, but also because other cleverer people have already done it (eg. Chen et al(1) etc). Epidemiological studies have been unable to show a relationship between MMR and autism/IDB(2-4 etc). 10 of Wakefield's 11 co-authors (with the last co-author apparently uncontactable) published a retraction of their interpretation(5).

I'm interested in why people object to vaccination so much?

People die from measles. That is a fact. Vaccine uptake is not good enough to give us herd immunity, by not getting vaccinated you put your kids and others in danger.

1. Chen RT, DeStefano F. Vaccine adverse events: causal or coincidental? Lancet. 1998 Feb 28;351(9103):611-2.

2. Taylor B, Miller E, Farrington CP, Petropoulos MC, Favot-Mayaud I, Li J, et al. Autism and measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine: no epidemiological evidence for a causal association. Lancet. 1999 Jun 12;353(9169):2026-9.

3. Taylor B, Miller E, Lingam R, Andrews N, Simmons A, Stowe J. Measles, mumps, and rubella vaccination and bowel problems or developmental regression in children with autism: population study. BMJ. 2002 Feb 16;324(7334):393-6.

4. Fombonne E, Chakrabarti S. No evidence for a new variant of measles-mumps-rubella-induced autism. Pediatrics. 2001 Oct;108(4):E58.

5. Murch SH, Anthony A, Casson DH, Malik M, Berelowitz M, Dhillon AP, et al. Retraction of an interpretation. Lancet. 2004 Mar 6;363(9411):750.

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Touche Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 223	Ooooh, I'm late to the party I do feel giving families a nudge into getting their kids vaccinated is a good idea. I like the way France approach it... vaccination is voluntary, schooling is not... to go to school you need vaccinations If you don't wanna get your kids vaccinated you could always leave the country :P I'm not going to spend hours digging into Wakefield's paper, partly because it's so far from my area of interest, but also because other cleverer people have already done it (eg. Chen et al(1) etc). Epidemiological studies have been unable to show a relationship between MMR and autism/IDB(2-4 etc). 10 of Wakefield's 11 co-authors (with the last co-author apparently uncontactable) published a retraction of their interpretation(5). I'm interested in why people object to vaccination so much? People die from measles. That is a fact. Vaccine uptake is not good enough to give us herd immunity, by not getting vaccinated you put your kids and others in danger. 1. Chen RT, DeStefano F. Vaccine adverse events: causal or coincidental? Lancet. 1998 Feb 28;351(9103):611-2. 2. Taylor B, Miller E, Farrington CP, Petropoulos MC, Favot-Mayaud I, Li J, et al. Autism and measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine: no epidemiological evidence for a causal association. Lancet. 1999 Jun 12;353(9169):2026-9. 3. Taylor B, Miller E, Lingam R, Andrews N, Simmons A, Stowe J. Measles, mumps, and rubella vaccination and bowel problems or developmental regression in children with autism: population study. BMJ. 2002 Feb 16;324(7334):393-6. 4. Fombonne E, Chakrabarti S. No evidence for a new variant of measles-mumps-rubella-induced autism. Pediatrics. 2001 Oct;108(4):E58. 5. Murch SH, Anthony A, Casson DH, Malik M, Berelowitz M, Dhillon AP, et al. Retraction of an interpretation. Lancet. 2004 Mar 6;363(9411):750.